Jun 28, 2008, 02:32 AM // 02:32
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Spain ^^
Guild: Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD大]
Profession: A/
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omg fooster stop talking things which aint true... we beat you and u just dunno what to do... now we shared the build so....
BTW Grieve my name is Danny Assasin, not Danny Assassin hahaha, but its ok np
Fooster, I want my 10k.....
wanna see them asap!
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Jun 29, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30
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#22
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Academy Page
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Your Sweetest Dream
Guild: Pink Flying Flaming Donkeys Of [BoBo]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
funny this isnt even the real build we used you feel for it fooster somethign are knda what we used but mostly not
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If you're going to use my account to post, at least post ledgibly...
Funny this isn't even the real build we used, you fell for it Fooster. Some things are kinda what we used but mostly not.
Last edited by DéesseBrighid; Jun 29, 2008 at 07:20 AM // 07:20..
Reason: Horrible grammar: therangereminem
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Jun 29, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24
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#23
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Academy Page
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Your Sweetest Dream
Guild: Pink Flying Flaming Donkeys Of [BoBo]
Profession: E/
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PS Fooster: I think it's funny that you have to try so hard to take credit for things that aren't yours to take credit for. You sit here and say the only reason they posted it was because they wanted the credit, well duh. It's their build. Isn't that the same reason you posted your guide? At least the person posting this guide gave credit where credit was due.
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Jun 29, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22
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#24
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2008
Guild: Stealing [agro]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DéesseBrighid
PS Fooster: I think it's funny that you have to try so hard to take credit for things that aren't yours to take credit for. You sit here and say the only reason they posted it was because they wanted the credit, well duh. It's their build. Isn't that the same reason you posted your guide? At least the person posting this guide gave credit where credit was due.
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Oh my god, Well Said. Fooster take a hint and just give up please, not your builds.
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Jun 29, 2008, 02:10 PM // 14:10
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#25
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Ascalonian Squire
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The Necro Builds
If you guys saw the bars we started with on the necro's, I don't think anyone would be so eager to take credit. As for what we ended up with... they're basic ss and foc builds, modified (slightly) to fit the job. The builds have been around for ages.
Last edited by darkstone construct; Jun 29, 2008 at 02:50 PM // 14:50..
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Jun 29, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04
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#26
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: in a utopian dream
Guild: clan dethryche[dth]
Profession: N/
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Well after reading this thread it's time to clear the air as to who came up with these necro builds. A few weeks ago dennis/Tears asked me to hop on vent because he was seeking to improve the time on uw speed clears and he was wondering if I could provide any input, seeing as he knew that I had played an awful lot of necro. It was at that point that I told him that Mark of Pain had the highest DPS in the game, when used under the right circumstances - a tightly packed mob and physical damage hitting the MoP'd foe. So I made that suggestion and some time later dennis and the guys had a couple necro bars worked out and took me along for a test run. Both bars had SS, MoP, ebon vanguard assassin and whatever else. The idea was gather agro, hex with SS, MoP a target and throw the ebon sin at him since it inflicts physical damage and would trigger MoP for some huge damage. So we went in as a partial team to see how long it would take to do the vale section of the run. We finished in an easy 17 minutes and what was the reaction? Everybody was excited and celebrating that the 20 minute mark could now easily be surpassed. I thought dennis was gonna have a baby he was so excited. If these builds had already existed then this event would not have been anything groundbreaking and there would have been no cause for celebration.
Not long after this the guys posted an official time of 17 minutes only to be accused of getting "lucky spawns". Apparently the self-proclaimed creator of these necro bars had no clue how this run was done so fast. If he really had created these bars would he not have known? It's an interesting question. More recently I was asked to come along again, this time we ran the necro bars posted in the OP, since they worked better overall than the MoP bars.
As far as giving credit goes, I would say these guys are pretty generous. All I did was make one measly suggestion about MoP and go on a few runs and the guys were nice enough to throw a nod my way, thanks guys. People who steal credit for themselves dont do this.
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Jul 01, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44
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#27
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Ascalonian Squire
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Necro Bars Redux
As mentioned earlier, the MoP based bars were not particularly well thought out. They had 2 major issues: (a) they included a self healing component centered around feast of corruption and assn shadow step skills which was completely unneccessary and (b) since MoP causes enemies to scatter considerably more than SS, FoC and the like, it consistently caused issues with body blocks and open-air tanking (especially when combined with spears, which forced the necros deeper into agro than otherwise necessary). The upgraded bars improved the effectiveness of the build, especially in vale.
The 17 minute run was completed despite the MoP bars... agro control issues popped up on several occasions. We made roughly 4 attempts while working on the bars but did not re-roll spawns or anything of the sort. With a perfect spawn it should be possible to clock in at about 12 minutes or so using this team build. Long live the necro!
This pissing contest is getting a little old (not to mention childish). Please give credit where credit is due... or better yet, post a more effective build.
Last edited by darkstone construct; Jul 01, 2008 at 03:51 AM // 03:51..
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Jul 01, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34
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#28
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]
Profession: Mo/
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well we dont need to ost a more effective build. we have a 13 minute timer posted ( well the team i play with ) i was only there for the 14 minute.
as for the pissing contest i didnt know there really was one untill all of a sudden you guys posted this time and startd flaming me and crap accusing me of stealing builds and all that and taking credit..
read my guides... in them i gave full credit where it was due
as for the rest credit was givin my by the general comunity because i published guides.. i also taught entire guilds and aliances how to speed clear.
i was never a glory hog like you accuse me of.
dennis just had a problem with me and infected you guys with it.
and its true the foc necro and the ss i was talkin about it waay back.. and hinted it in my posts as early as the 42 minute run.
im not trying to steal credit. its fact.. i was on to the necro idea loong ago.
anyhow if you want to continue ths flame fest.. go for it. amuse me.
i have a life outside guild wars so this is water off a ducks back when i turn the comp off. OR you can make peace and all row up and smarten up.
you too dennis... grow up man and lay off the slander.posting a time that was faster didnt in no way increase you as a human being and you have taken nothing from me at all.
my team held that record for 4 months straight! you had it for... 5 days. but hey.. grats.. you guys are the first one to beat me even if it was short lived its still an acomplishment worth respect.
now we have a 13 minute timer posted.. so that makes it your move dennis ( if you still wanna carry this whole fiasco on) now you can ither jsut make peace and join us OR you can keep your seperat fences and shit and stay the #2 team with the 3rd fastest time (ours is a 14 and a 13 minute clear.) and i know ... you will point out hatt i wasnt there.. fine.. if you like i ca post screens when i was there (thats if you wanna make this personal)
so its your move denny-poo.... grow up and make peace or keep on crying about whatever pissed you off and use it to try to beat the fastest time.
and make it a race to 10 minutes, or make peace and be one big happy family.but as it is now as seperate teams, your #2.
and in a race.. second place is only the first loser.
Last edited by Th Fooster; Jul 01, 2008 at 05:33 PM // 17:33..
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Jul 02, 2008, 09:56 AM // 09:56
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: R/Mo
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wow fooster gg not we will beat it we are number 1 and will be back on top when all our team is together again we have lives i have been busy working and so has the resty of the team ,
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Jul 02, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10
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#30
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: North Carolina, US
Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM]
Profession: W/
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This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o
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Jul 03, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24
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#31
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: SG1
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mourne
This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o
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quoted for truth
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Oct 10, 2008, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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#32
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Me/E
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disregard post..didnt realize date, sorry
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Oct 31, 2008, 12:47 PM // 12:47
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#33
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Quality Control [QuCo]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mourne
This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o
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quoted for truth AGAIN.
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Oct 31, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10
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#34
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: India
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: A/
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I lol'd when I read this thread...
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Nov 03, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11
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#35
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Blighty, Land of bad weather and plucky Brits
Guild: R.I.P. DJ HMS [BZRK]
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A quick question, why are the builds called "perma..", as from what I can see, SF isn't permanant. Or is something else perma?
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